If you frequent a business, and the CEO of that business goes public with a political or philosophical position with which you disagree, what would you do? Does it matter? Would it affect your decision to shop there? Or would you support a full-fledged boycott against the business?
A piece in The New York Times summarizes just such a flap that broke out last week: Last Wednesday, John Mackey, the chief executive of Whole Foods, took to the pages of The Wall Street Journal to opine that "we clearly need health care reform," but arguing against the solutions being put forward by the administration.
Daily Kos blogger DarkSyde wondered if Mackey had lost sight of his demographic:
"Mr. Mackey, I'm not sure if you understand who it is that shops at your organic grocery chain. A lot of progressives, vegetarians, professional and amateur athletes, and others who care so much about the environment and what they eat that they're still willing to shell out three bucks for an organic orange, even in the midst of the worst recession in sixty years. I was proud [Whole Foods] was based in my hometown of Austin, and defended it against most of the conservatives I knew growing up there, many of whom still hold your entire business in utter contempt. Some of them ridiculed me for shopping at Whole Foods, with all the 'tree huggers and granola eaters and hippies' who, incidentally, made you a millionaire."
What do you think? Are those who are proposing the boycott overreacting?
I think I will participate in a "Reverse Boycott" and begin going to Whole Foods while wearing my "Sarah Palin-2012,You Betcha" T-shirt.
The Health Care package is being water-down so much, I wonder what will be left. But I have hope that something will come of it for the people that need health care. I appreciate my Medicare plus Blue Cross and think all people should have the same access as my husband and I do.
As to boycotting Whole Foods because of the CEOs remarks, I don't feel that is a good reason (you know, the "cut off your nose" thing). But, I have a good reason for "boycotting" them. They are no longer what they use to be, so I no longer shop there. The last time I was there, I found so many things on the shelves that were past their "sell by" date I was shocked. Now I encourage anyone that does still shop there to inspect what they buy for the "sell by" date.
I shop someplace based on convenience, service, product, price. I do not shop at places based on what the CEO thinks. I have more than my share of free time but even I do not think that hard about where I buy my food. Excluding the above mentioned criteria.
I say let them boycott, I would rather not shop with idiots to begin with.
I anticipated that the Whole Foods CEO would have a different perspective on health care, but either way, it would have no effect on my decision to shop there. We do believe in free speech, do we not?
Mary must be 65 or more if she is on Medicare. She clearly has no idea what is in the House healthcare bill---because it would definitely result in rationing with seniors getting the short end of the stick. Medicare is having such problems that unless the government turns it over to private enterprise to run, all can expect cut backs in service and resulting rationing of care.
Haven't shopped there too much, but will now. It works both ways mental midgets, who like obamination hate free speech. Progressive? In the joe stalin fashion.
Like Mary Hilpert I stopped shopping there because of the deteriorating integrity of the store overall. The cod fillet I discarded right after I got it home. The imported unsalted butter was on the edge of being stale. The little cans of cat food went up from 90 cents to $1.10. The whipping cream in the cute glass bottle would not get stiff enough for decorating. The gorgeous looking produce is too expensive for me. And I don't live in Fig Garden. I am back to butter from California happy cows, Producers cream whips up great, and Simonian Farms' produce is just fine.
But I am concerned that the president's health plan is not going to be healthy for seniors of adequate but limited , fixed income; (which is most of us seniors.) To reduce to insufficient medical treatment and medication for one group in order give insufficient medical treatment to an additional group is not health reform in my book. It's robbing Peter to pay Paul to the detriment of Peter and Paul.
I still believe that we should be willing to pay a little more in taxes and make special temporary provision for those who are now without health care through no fault of their own. Let efficient and fair health care reform happen like the aging of good wine. Government could work well with private enterprise, if that government has the backbone to stop the insurance industry from looking look at us as cash cows instead of human beings. Reform in the laws guiding the obligations of the insurance companies would be far more useful than inventing an entirely new and equally inadequate system. I think!
Free speech has been replaced with "politically-correct speech." The owner of Whole Foods apparently has broken he sacred rule that anyone who believes in wholesome foods must be a progressive liberal, and toe the line. I don't shop there because I can't afford to but I recognize that they carry the finest in eats. Let those who cannot tolerate free thought and free speech seek out their organic fare elsewhere; it will far more inconvenient. As a libertarian, I am now motivated to shop there for what I might be able to afford, knowing that the owner is truly an individual who is not controlled by others.
Let the others eat cake.
It seems to me that we have had it so bad so long that this country would believe you. I remember when President Reagan started this whole privatization thing back in the good old "80s". When Medicare was fully funded, it was so much user friendly over what the private sector is doing. I remember what it meant to be part of the bigger picture. Our National Government can do things that the States and private business can't do. That's the fly in the ointment. There's so much money riding on this, if the American people get anything to help them; it will be a miracle! Big business does not want to lose!
Blah blah culture wars, "defending it against conservatives," WHATEVER. People get all excited about making enemies. Any opportunity to get offended is taken advantage of.
Here's another newsflash. The people who sell you food at farmer's markets might also have opinions that differ from your own. The nerve!
"The people who sell you food at farmer's markets might also have opinions that differ from your own."
Affirmative! That's why I don't ask my grocer for his party affiliation. Kimberly, if the opponents of conservatives are idiots; what are the opponents of liberals? (An idiot is an idiot may it be to the right or may it be to the left....to be played in f sharp) lol
Yes and no. Any marketing professor will tell you that when you buy you are voting. You are placing your vote to say I want you to make more of this product. Which in essence also says you agree with how it was made. If you purchase a product that was produced with child labor working 17 hour shifts, you are in fact saying that is O.K. with you. In cases such as I just described I'd say, hell ya I'll boycott that company. In this case, the CEO is stating his personal opinion. Buying from that company is not supporting his opinion. His opinion harms no one. In this case, the boycot is just plain silly.
Kim try explain that to a woman who wants a diamond ring.
Government provided healthcare is my birthright as an American, and Mackey is trying to keep me from having what is rightfully mine. I'm fighting back.
I refuse to shop there again until Mackey is gone and until Whole Foods supports single payer.
"Are those who are proposing the boycott overreacting?" Probably not. While reasonable people may disagree on the value of a particular boycott, people in a free society should be able to determine whether they want to intiate, participate, or ignore a boycott that reflects individual beliefs. Personally, I'm not in favor of this one, but since I don't shop at Whole Foods, no harm, no foul.
This must be an exercise.
The fact that we're even discussing what the CEO of Whole Foods thinks of anything indicates that this is the greatest country on Earth and we want for very little.
When you are turned away from the any American emergency department for the first time, may I recommend CDC or WHO for any government healthcare treatment should you predictably suffer the consequences of your alternative lifestyle.
Unfortunately libhomo, government provided health care is not anyone's birthright as an American. It never has been and still is not. Since the 1940s healthcare has evolved so that many more people have access to it; the government has subsidized some of it and emergency rooms generally do not turn people away. However, it has never been a right. This is something people seem to be forgetting.
Yep... Marketing 101.
Actually Rich, not all diamonds are conflict diamonds and many companies check before they purchase and resell their inventory. I agree most people probably don't check but many do. Besides what is a diamond if it doesn't have a saphire with it? HA.
I am not versed in United States Law. I would not know if it contained lex scripta (statute) of compulsory medical aid. Though I suspect that it somewhere, somehow does. But there is lex non scripta (unwritten law) which compels society to render medical aid. That obligation is reflected in Canon law. That is why there are so many religious non-profit (free of charge) medical facilities here and abroad. In a more subtle (indirect) way we find lex non scripta in the Hippocratic Oath.
"In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all seduction and especially from the pleasures of love with women or with men, be they free or slaves.
All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or in daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal.
If I keep this oath faithfully, may I enjoy my life and practice my art, respected by all men and in all times; but if I swerve from it or violate it, may the reverse be my lot.
This boycott is just another example to how IGNORANT those involved are! Obama is a manipulator. Did it even occur to all of you fools that you are putting 50,000 jobs at risk?! Now doesn't THAT make a lot of sense!
Until mention in this blog I had no idea who John Mackey (of Whole Food Market) was and what he said. I did not "boycot" the Fig Garden store but I stopped shopping there after some experiences with unwholesome quality of fish, dairy products, and A 30 cent price increase on a 90 cent can of cat food. I am sure it was not Whole Food's policy, but their butcher and dairy product stacker were irresponsible with the dating process. And that is the kind of corporate malpractice that causes jobs to be lost. I am not the only one in Fresno who dislikes old fish fillets, stale imported butter etc. etc.. And it does not make anyone a fool.
Funny Brian, I think he has fresh ideas. I saw a documentary on WF employees' healthcare benefits, and they seemed to be VERY pleased. I am copying this from another board: Enjoy!
Do You Know Who You Are Boycotting?
posted at 8/21/2009 7:05 AM CDT
* Mackey lectures at Universities about the horrors of factory farming
* He says “Right now, Americans have to pretend factory farms don’t exist. They turn their eyes away, because there’s no alternative, there’s no choice. Once there is a choice, we will allow ourselves to be outraged.”
* He makes $1 a year and donates his stock portfolio to charity.
* He set up a $100,00 fund to help his employees with personal problems.
* He’s a vegetarian and his company will not buy from producers that treat their animals unethically.
* He flies commercial, rents the smallest cars, and stays in the cheapest hotel rooms - not because he’s cheap, but because he has no need for largesse
* He and his wife participate in yoga
* He gives over $1 million a year to animal welfare groups, education, relief work, and spiritual movements.
* Employees have full say in who they work with - a new employee must receive a 2/3 vote in order to make it past probation.
* Employees also vote on all company-wide initiatives
* There’s a salary book in every store - “no secrets” management believes everyone should know how much everyone else is making
* Executive salaries are capped at 14 times the lowest workers salary - If they want more money, everyone else has to get more money first
* Non-executive employees hold 94% of company stock options
* Pay is linked to team performance - profit sharing
* At least 5% of annual profits go to local charities
* Full-timers get 100% of their health care costs paid for - under plans the employees have selected
* “They just have a lot more respect for you as a person here” says an employee
And because he had a different idea about how the United States can fix it health care situation, none of this matters? He’s a caring person and many of you want to treat him like a monster. Why? Not because he opposes reform, but because he’s bringing more ideas to the table.
I think this whole thing is kind of uncalled for. The guy wrote an opinion piece with reasonable arguments. He didn't say anything outrageous in his column, where as Glen Beck said the president is racist. Now that is a statement worthy of boycott.
Joan Obra pretends to walk the neutral, journalistic line in her Food Section article on Whole Foods, but her motives are obvious with the following excerpt from the aforementioned story...
[quote=Joan Obra]...So isn’t it odd that Mackey, the public face of the Whole Foods brand, is telling us not to eat much of the food sold in his stores?
His arguments have worked on me. At the Fig Garden store last weekend, I saw the pizza and thought, “dairy … designed for disease.”
I considered a burger but thought, “animal foods … self-inflicted … heart disease.”
I looked at the wine and remembered, “minimal or no alcohol consumption.”
I lost my appetite after that. Since I’d already bought my produce at a farmers market, I picked up two limes, a bunch of cilantro and two avocados. My bill: $7.27.
[end quote]
As if Joan Obra is going to actually remove these items from her diet permanently. HA!
To further reinforce the Whole Foods bashing by Obra, check this excerpt from her blog on the same article:
[quote = Joan Obra]Well, just as Whole Foods thinks we have a right to labeled foods, many of its customers believe we have a right to health care - and they want to support companies with like-minded leaders. So calls for a boycott shouldn't be any surprise.[end quote]
It sure sounds like Joan's encouraging others to go elsewhere for their "sour grapes" in the future.
The comments here seem to mirror my own thoughts. Although I am still critical of Mackey for his underhanded tactics in anonymously criticising the management of Wild Oats at the same time he was trying to do a takeover of the rival company. Mackey's criticism of the plan for health care reform is justified, I believe; especially if the reform would make the Whole Foods insurance and HSA benefit plan non-conforming or otherwise non-qualified. Mackey's current plan gives all employees a high-deductible($2,500) insurance plan, PLUS a $1,700 HSA contribution. While I don't know the details, I suppose that the $1,700 HSA is an annual total. I think this is the ideal kind of plan, and that the stupid government needs to wake up and take notice. Instead of forcing the poorest Americans to purchase some "basic" and very watered-down health care insurance from the evil for-profit insurance companies, from which the great majority would derive little or NO benefits, at least Mackey's HSA's (Health Savings Accounts) would allow ALL of those low-income Americans who are forced to pay toward such a policy, to directly benefit by having dollars available to pay for ALL types of medical care, including sickness, well-care, dental care, vision and hearing, and physical rehabilitation, mental and drug rehab, etc.
These HSA's represent "first dollar benefits", and those dollars would go directly to the health care providers, and NOT to the private, for-profit health insurers -- which is the very LAST place we need to be sending money. My wife and I recently watched "Damaged Care", a older video starring Laura Dern, and reminding us of the case of "Baby James", who died because his insurance "manager" directed his parents to a hospital 42 miles away. In another case, Humana bid for, and took over a company account, and then sought to improve their profits by unjustly cancelling coverage for over 25, high-cost, disabled members. The video also referenced a social theory that argued that large corporations would morph into "evil" power centers -- so I think the "evil" description of private, for-profit insurers is well-justified.
I emailed similar comments to Senator Diane Feinstein recently, fully supporting Mackey's health benefit plan for his employees. Way to go, Mr. Mackey! Let's all support HSA's.
Sorry, Charlie...I don't know where you got these impressions from.
It seems to me that Obra states quite clearly halfway down her article that she doesn't believe in the boycotting of Whole Foods. And I quote:
"As for me, I think the boycott is a slippery slope. To eat in line with their ideals, boycotters would have to ask everyone who feeds them — from farmers to restaurant owners — what they think of health-care reform. That’s just impractical."
And where you read intent to support boycotters from her fresnobeehive post, I see a rather obvious comparison: Whole Foods not only caters to a politically active clientele, they seek the backing of this clientele with causes the company believes in. So of course they're going to get angry about the CEO's 'health care solutions' if they don't agree! Of course they're going to get riled up and possibly boycott-- that's what politically active people DO.
What I see is a CEO who is putting forth some interesting ideas about health care. What he does for his company sounds like it works fairly well. I don't know enough about it to have any idea if it can work on a larger scale, though.
What I DO know is the lynchpin to this health care proposal basically calls for a rather extreme form of veganism. That is something I'd venture to say most of us that lead healthy lifestyles wouldn't be into. That would make us 'part of the problem' in the CEO's eyes.
Charlie, I'd think less about her objectivity and take a good, hard look at your own. Maybe then you would have read the entire column objectively instead of making up your mind about it--and her--after seeing the word 'boycott'.
Of course if you still don't agree maybe you could actually post on her blog at the beehive.
Ditto.