There is a "breaking news" story today from the Associated Press that is straight out of the "Duh" file. It says Elizabeth Edwards, the mother of three children and a breast cancer survivor, had a tough time when she found out her husband had cheated on her with a notorious party girl.
"There was anguish -- excruciating anguish -- for her in dealing with this," said Hargrave McElroy, a friend, commenting to People magazine for its Aug. 25 issue..."She couldn't say, 'Well, maybe we'll work through this for years, or maybe we should separate for two years,' (The cancer) forced her to choose whether to move forward.
"She was angry and furious and everything, but at one point she had to make a choice: Do I kick him out, or do we have a 30-year marriage that can be rebuilt."
Well, yes. So what do you all think? What was your reaction to this sordid story? Me? It just made me sick. Do I think he's telling the truth now? No. Am I suspicious about the money paid to her? Yes.
As I said, it makes me sick -- for Elizabeth and the children.
It is certainly appropriate that you feel sick, after all, he betrayed your Paper's endorsement in the primaries, but the fact that a story from "the national enquirer" suddenly becomes 'news de jour' sickens me...Must we compare this to Newt Ginrich's divorcing his wife while she lay dying from cancer?...The 30 year marriage that we should be concerned with, is the union between corporations-unleashed and our elected representatives.
I feel real bad for her and the children. He just couldn't keep it in his pants. Just like a politician. That is the utmost disrespect and as someone that was cheated on I can tell you it is a horrible feeling and it is wrong whether it is a man or woman. I don't understand why the other woman won't have a DNA test done if she is so sure it is Edwards kid.
"I think every single candidate for president, Republican and Democratic have lives, personal lives, that indicate something about what kind of human being they are. And I THINK IT IS A FAIR EVALUATION FOR AMERICA TO ENGAGE IN, TO LOOK AT, WHAT KIND OF HUMAN BEINGS EACH OF US ARE, and what kind of president we'd make." John Edwards, March 27, 2007
We now all know that the mainstream media covered for John Edwards in '07 & '08. Isn’t it likely that the media is also covering for Obama? What secrets lie beneath the Dem’s latest glitzy marketing ploy?
There's a difference between the two men, T.C. With Edwards, there were rumors of infidelity long before the story broke. With Obama you have nothing but wishful thinking to go on. Unlike McCain, he's still happily married to his first wife.
Mike D:
I’m not at all worried about Obama being unfaithful to his wife - although this trait is becoming more and more exclusively "Democrat."
A person can be "unfaithful" in other ways. Maybe it’s as Hillary’s communications director and strategist, Mark Penn, a notorious liberal, said about Obama, "I cannot imagine America electing a president at a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and values."
Is it significant that even a lib can discern this offensive and defective character trait of Obama?
Your tunnel-vision partisanship is showing, T.C. There's nothing exclusively Democratic about adultery. Just look at Rudy Guiliani and Newt Gingrich for a couple of notable examples of Republican adultery. There are many more. McCain is an adulterer, too, by biblical standards, since he divorced his first wife and married another.
As for Penn, I don't think anyone on the left considers him a "liberal." He's basically a policital hack who will do and say anything to get his candidate elected. Think Karl Rove.
It should be noted that Mike did not dispute Penn’s contention!
"not fundamentally American in his thinking and values."
Come on TC, Penn was fighting against Obama too. Of course he used the same scare tactics the Repubs are now using.
Since we're on the subject of wives though, you should read this.
I'm guessing you think infidelity is a Democratic trait. So, will McCain be looking at Idaho Senator Larry Craig for VP then? I hear he's looking for a job. I'm sure you know the list goes on.
Hey TC, I think that being "fundamentally American" would have to include the desire to return to Constitutional government, yet only the Greens and independents are even allowed to talk about that. I understand your deep-seeded need to have political polarity, but please spare me the Obama-is-a-liberal crap, it's childish and uninformed. Do you really think the benificiaries of the most obscene largesse in history would line up behind a "tax and spend liberal?"...give my regards to Rush.
Again, it should be noted that Mike did not dispute Penn’s contention.
I did say that unfaithfulness is becoming a trait "more and more exclusively, Democrat." Of course it is a characteristic of both the GOP and the Dems - it’s just becoming "more and more" the exclusive territory of the Dems. Most Dems look upon unfaithfulness as a "resume enhancement" when it comes to party recruitment.
Penn's statement was just an unsubstantiated opinion, T.C., not a factual contention. I thought it would be obvious that I disagree with it.
I notice that you didn't dispute my point about the lack of Republican virtue. Does that mean you concede the issue, and withdraw your contention that unfaithfulness "is becoming more and more exclusively 'Democrat.' [sic]"?
TC you always seem to throw stones from a glass house.
Both sides Dems as well as Repubs are human and fall short.
When the Republican Party tries to cast itself as the party of morality, values, party of Christians, hypocracy beats them back even harder.
Larry Craig was caught soliciting sex in a bathroom a Minnesota airport . . . he is a Republican
"McCain was still married and living with his wife in 1979 while, according to The New York Times' Nicholas Kristof, "aggressively courting a 25-year-old woman who was as beautiful as she was rich." McCain divorced his wife, who had raised their three children while he was imprisoned in Vietnam, then launched his political career with his new wife's family money.
Mark Foley served as a Republican member of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 until 2006, representing the 16th District of Florida.
Once known as a crusader against child abuse and exploitation, Foley resigned from Congress on September 29, 2006 after allegations surfaced that he had sent suggestive emails and sexually explicit instant messages[1] to teenaged boys who had formerly served and were at that time serving as Congressional pages.
House Speaker-elect Bob Livingston, reeling from the admission of his own marital infidelities, stunned Washington by announcing he would not run for speaker when the 106th Congress convenes next month and will quit the House in mid-1999.
"I have decided to inform my colleagues and my constituents that during my 33-year marriage to my wife, Bonnie, I have on occasion strayed from my marriage. Doing so nearly cost me my marriage and my family."
Rudy Giuliani marched with his then-mistress, Judith Nathan, in New York's St. Patrick's Day parade, an acknowledgement of infidelity so audacious that Daily News columnist Jim Dwyer compared it with "groping in the window at Macy's." In the acrid divorce proceedings that followed, Hanover accused Giuliani of serial adultery, alleging that Nathan was just the latest in a string of mistresses, following an affair the mayor had had with his former communications director.
Gingrich, who ran for Congress in 1978 on the slogan, "Let Our Family Represent Your Family." (He was reportedly cheating on his first wife at the time). In 1995, an alleged mistress from that period, Anne Manning, told Vanity Fair's Gail Sheehy: "We had oral sex. He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, 'I never slept with her.'" Gingrich obtained his first divorce in 1981, after forcing his wife, who had helped put him through graduate school, to haggle over the terms while in the hospital, as she recovered from uterine cancer surgery. In 1999, he was disgraced again, having been caught in an affair with a 33-year-old congressional aide while spearheading the impeachment proceedings against President Clinton.
Virtue? Doesn't exist in the political realm!
But it does seem that the Dems have cornered the market on the GREATER lack of it! Calls 'em as I see 'em!
Lest you misconstrue any failure to specifically respond to your last post as agreement, T.C., what is your support for your claim that "Most Dems look upon unfaithfulness as a 'resume enhancement' when it comes to party recruitment."
I'm a Democrat, I'm married to a Democrat, I know lots of Democrats, but I do not know a single Democrat who thinks unfaithfulness is any sort of "resume enhancement." Do you have any basis for that assertion, or are you just making up "facts" out of thin air?
If Edwards had not been a media darling, aka, liberal, there would have been immediate and non-stop "investigative journalism." There is no room for "personal" or "private" considerations in the face of such hypocrisy. Edwards has always been another sleazy trial lawyer. Too bad he did not win the Defeatocrats' party nomination.
So where's all the "non-stop" investigative journalism of McCain's pecadillos? He's mostly getting a free pass from the so-called "liberal media."
(By the way, your use of the slur "Defeatocrats" shoots down any chance you had of portraying your post as an objective observation.)
The same people (libs) supposedly giving Edwards "grief" over the latest Demo indiscretion are also giving one of their recent serial adulterers a prime time spot at the Demo convention. You figure! Do we really need any more proof of Dem "resume enhancement"? Look at where it got Kaiser Bill!
That's all the "proof" you can offer, T.C.? That's not much. Clinton is a former U.S. President, and is being given the speech slot in spite of his past sins, not because of them. You'll have to do a lot better than that to support your assertion.