oh!
kudos to sleepover!
congradulations you guys!

Mike Oz:

Am just now catching wind that LadySmith Black Mombazzo is performing tonight at the Tower...

(do you know HOW good these guys are?)

Read your write up (online) on the Bee
-no mention of showtime
-no mention of ticket prices (approx.)

help a brothah out, will ya?

spill it.

thanks.

Cool flyer

Towel: Not sure why the infobox with the story didn't make it to the online edition, but here ya go:

What: Ladysmith Black Mambazo

When: 8 p.m. Tuesday

Where: Tower Theatre, 815 E. Olive Ave.

Cost: $38

Details: (559) 485-9050

this is just soooooooo not cool.

Just did some research

here goes.
(I just called the box office.)

You can't buy tickets on line
-whether you buy on phone or with a debit card, there's a 3 dollar 'one time' handling fee, --regardless of the amount of tickets.

Tickets?
-are ALL 41.00 (you know, unless you want to buy them for 3 bucks more using your credit-card or debit... (online box office is now closed.)

Showtime?
-less than an hour and a half.

-no disrespect to the bands billed on this thread meant--

But you'd think
--International recording artists who've done killer stuff for two decades (and this is not a coverband or some warmed over distant relative to a band, these are the real guys...)

would
well
you know

-rate?

(unlike the orch. which can charge a bundle and still sound flat (because of the accoustics of the saroyan... NOT the orch's fault.)

LadySmith Black Mombazzo can sing in an intersection and sound AMAZING...

(grumble)

oh wow...

I got my stuff from the tower flyer
(Box office (now) says 8:00p. (confirmed)

I appreciate your efforts in answering so fast... (didn't know if you'd be able to.)

She just gave me the prices when I just called.

well...
gonna miss train.

-bummer

Sorry you missed out, but they were in the paper on Friday and Sunday (both times with pictures!), so at some point I can't just keep repeating myself.

I actually figured it would be sold out by now.

It's all good.

this may shock you but... well,

I don't really read the Bee in Print Form

-I just happened to bump into it online while looking at something else (I think I've bought the Bee maybe 5 times in the past 3 years.)

-I do go through the post no bills section, though, and get tons of good info from you online though, --so yeah, it's all good.

I also figured: Between Donald, Felicia and You (not to mention Will, --cause these guys are so visual,)
--it'd get more cyber-ink...

(wonder how many other 'screen subscribers' fell to the same thing...)
-hope it's a good show.

That's cool -- but if you don't read the paper, I don't think you can complain about not being informed, ya know?

The Beehive has a lot of good info, but it's not everything ...

Hey Towel: So let me get this straight -- you're irked because you didn't know about an event that was featured both on the COVER of Spotlight (the, um, arts/entertainment section) on Sunday AND was one of our "7 Things to Do" with a photo in Friday's 7 section? The Beehive is awesome, but we're obviously not the entire newspaper. And let's not forget who pays for the Beehive. Can you say "subscription"?

Sure Donald, we can get this straight:
I'm not irked,
I just got 'left out of the loop' because I'm more of a computer reader (than a hardcopy) reader.
-Had I known of this show earlier? I probably would have caught it.
I love these guys, they are world class performers, are excellent musicians, and it's a real honor to have them playing in Fresno, (I consider their work a lot more credible than most,) -this was a cool thing.

(In truth)
I rarely read the hardcopy of the Bee.
But I often blast through it online.
(well, as much as I'm able, (and) as much as they care to put on the computer.)

I also read a lot of other papers, and catch a lot of news (archived and live) from all over the place (including local) on line as well.
(my guess is: I'm sorta a large demographic these days.)

-regrettably?-

Where this had (apparently huge) coverage of this in the hardcopy version (twice,)
-there wasn't anything I saw in the cyber until it was literally an hour or so before the show,
-and even that one (somehow) didn't have time and ticket price listed.

I went through 'post no bills' saw no heads up there, either. (unusual in that Oz is a tremendous resource, and i've caught some great heads up there on a lot of shows.)

(which, (in a way) makes sense (since) it was so heavilly covered in print, --but for those of us who don't really do 'print,'
-we missed it.

-it wasn't that he missed anything in coverage, (but maybe) didn't realize what a strong following 'cyber-news' folks are??? dunno.
But I'm not throwing rocks at the man's work, that's for sure.

Trust me: 'Beehive' is far from an only newssource, (I don't even know if I've ever really considered it as 'news-source' -I guess it is... but to me it's sort of in it's own definition.
-though there have been consistantly excellent 'scoops' regarding upcoming shows and stuff (always from Oz)
that I've really benefitted from
-I have no idea if they were (also) in print or not (tend to think not. --and never even consider it.)

-so this situation was a bit of a reversal.

Regarding Subscriptions?

Sorry, for the amount of information I go through in a single day?, I'd drown in paper (of various types) if I had hardcopies,
As it is? (I'm taking it as an omen to learn Spanish as it is because 'Vida Valley' has been perpetually delivered since I've moved here, never asked for it, but the previous tenants (from like 5 years ago? I guess did...)
(I've been told because the Bee has a passion to be sure to read both Bi-Lingual and Half English/Half Spanish reading city-dwellers,
-and feels informing them is more a worthy thing than 'payment' so it just 'gets delivered' to where they know folks can/will/need-to read it.
--so kudos there.)

There are some papers I try to read, and prefer the hardcopy, (such as NYT) but even the time for that's rare, but there also, the format and layout is more like a 'book' than 'blips' (and usually I'll read that online too.)

With the Bee?
it's usually a quick look at something, full read of it, and then 'okay, ahuh, got it... next.'
-I only need it for information, -not as a souvenier of my daily life in Fresno.

Maybe it's a 'not wanting to contribute to more paper-waste / recycling thing, dunno... prolly more time/convenience.

I realize this show (Ladysmith) came on the heels of the Rogue (which got pretty good cyber coverage)
--and tonight's (Ladysmith) show was apparently covered in hardcopy,

--but not much was said about it online, and some of us are really almost purely 'on-liner's

(as for 'who pays for the beehive?,
(and 'can I say 'subscription.?')

-somebody on your end wanna give me a breakdown of
'how much fueled by subscribers'
(vs)
'how much fueled by paying advertisers'

I'm curious to know.

Flight 409 is playing at SXSW too...I saw a bulletin they posted on MySpace. Cool that some local bands will be reppin...

@Danielle: Yeah? That would be a good look for them. I don't see them on the SXSW sked, so maybe they're just going down there to do some unofficial stuff. Rademacher has done that a few times too.

@towel: I don't make the fliers in Post No Bills, so if an event doesn't have a flier, there's not much I can do. Fact is not everything I write about in print makes it onto the blog -- and not everything I write about on the blog makes it to print. Still, the LBM story was online Sunday -- so even if you're checking out fresnobee.com on the daily, you should have seen it.

I swear, I'm sneaking into Wet Towel's house today and removing his dash/hyphen key and his space bar.

DRW: --I'll warn ya, sneaking into the house isn't a good idea, (the cats know jujitsu) --besides, I roll mobile as well. (tech: it's a dreadful thing.)

Mike: It's all good... you posted all possible Jonas Bro's dates for three planets...
-you in for the Pittsburgh dates or what?
(lemme know, I gotta bolt on another seat on the bike, and we gotta leave next week if we're gonna make it in time...)

seriously?
I sorta like the idea of a common database between paper and beehive.

You've become a 'tome and reference guide of sorts (congrats/sorry 'bout the pressure)
--and though there were no lives lost, there are some of us who look forward to your info being known...
(I'm curious what calls out priority,
-do you put everything in a common spool -and then decide what goes where?
-not sure how you guys prep what you do, but since there's 'changes' in the mix... dunno, it's an idea.
-Admittedly what I hit from the bee is usually headlines when I cross over, and yeah, when it comes to stuff I spend 'time' on? Usually the BeeHive will win, (regarding actual news-intensive stuff, the bee is woefully lightweight by comparrison, (sorry.)
-Is it promo money and advertising that dictates what gets pushed harder? like STOMP which has a whole top bar on Beehive recently?)
-and (again) no foul if Ladysmith wasn't flyer'd and sent to you... (maybe next time they'll do somthing animated, you know with dayglo dancing lions or something...