UPDATE: ‘Nunsense’ creator Dan Goggin responds to my review
UPDATE 11/29: The playwright responds to reader comments by posting one of his own on this post.
ORIGINAL ENTRY: Dan Goggin, who wrote the book, music and lyrics for “Nunsensations: The Vegas Revue!,” was not pleased when he found my review online of the new Good Company Players production at Roger Rocka’s Dinner Theater. And he let me know about it. I asked Goggin if I could post his response.
I had my say in my review, now I’ll let him have his:
Dear Mr. Munro,
Your review of Nunsensations happened to come up on my gmail and I felt I ought to respond. First of all, although you may think the Nunsense shows are running out of steam, they couldn’t be more in demand. There were 160 productions of the various shows running in the last six months! Even I am amazed (and thrilled) by the continued undiminished popularity of all of the shows. Nunsensations has been a favorite of theatregoers and has grossed several million dollars since it premiered. I’d love to send you a DVD of the television production of Nunsensations to see if you had the same opinion as you did of the local show.
There must be a reason these shows continue to sell and to gross millions of dollars. Could it be that audiences love them? My shows have saved over 100 theatres from bankruptcy and we are about to save another in northern California with Nunset Boulevard. I don’t know what your qualifications are when it comes to being a critic and I don’t know the quality of the production in Fresno. But your writing seems to express resentment that these shows are successful. Perhaps you would prefer more serious theatre even if most audiences didn’t.
A particular critic in Minneapolis (who was voted the snobbiest most pretentious critic in town by theatregoers) is always tough on me. But for some odd reason we have become friends. His review of the world premiere of Nunset Boulevard had some wonderful quotes but he always gets his digs in. When I asked him why he couldn’t have printed that the audience was howling with laughter on opening night and gave us a standing ovation his answer was this: “For me to write that audiences love your shows would be like writing that the sun is going to rise in the East. I know so many writers and composers who would kill to have your unerring sense of what an audience wants and your talent create it.” Probably the best quote I’ve ever received.
I laughingly pointed out to him that it was more likely that his job as a newpaper critic would end long before any Nunsense show would be out of business. And sure enough, the newspaper eliminated the critic’s position to try to save money and he is no longer a critic of anything but is working in a job fund raising. I only hope that your review didn’t hurt your local theatre’s ability to stay in business. I shall write to them now in case they need help.
Sincerely, Dan Goggin
Responses to "UPDATE: ‘Nunsense’ creator Dan Goggin responds to my review"
KUDOS TO MR GOGGIN…THE REVIEW HIT HARD ON HOW YOU HATED THE WRITING OF THE SHOW AND LIGHTLY ON THE 5 TALENTED ACTORS ON STAGE. HOW IS THAT HELPING LOCAL THEATER?
Wow, bad form on the part of Mr. Goggin. Over the last couple of years I have learned, the hard way, that you never respond to a review. Never.
Also, his argument that lots of people like it and therefore it must be good, well all I have to say is – ‘Two and a Half Men’
What a swell guy. One hundred and sixty productions in the last six months and he’s wet about one unflattering review??!?!?
I sure hope he’s able to help out local theatre with his generous-if-fragile doses of self-inflated ego. “I shall write to them now in case they need help.”
Gosh, without him, our theatres worldwide would be vacant and in shambles.
Either way, he’s insulting someone who was just doing their job. If he can’t take a lil criticism then he may want to switch fields now.
I don’t have an issue with Mr. Goggin responding to your critique of his work and I’m glad you posted his comments for us to read. After all most artists tend to put their heart and sole into their work. And I’m sure his final comment about helping the “local theatre” was done tongue in cheek.
But I do think in today’s economy it is important to uplift the local theater and critique mostly on the merits of the particular production which in this case seemed almost an after thought in your writing. A brief mention of your opinion of the work is ok, but for the most part I don’t think most readers care about that. I would have much rather read more about the quality of the local performers in the GCP production.
Goggin needs to grow a pair–by which I mean he should realize that no one pleases all of the people all of the time. You pointed out the obvious–a play (or movie, or TV show) can be massively successful and still be–in the minds of many–crap. He should be happy with his success and accept the fact that a lot of discriminating viewers are of the opinion that he writes garbage. No amount of whining on his part will change that. As for the Nunsense franchise saving Good Company Players, I’ve taken lots of visiting family to their shows over the years, but the only show that any of my relatives ever hated–HATED–was Nunsense.
Erm, Fresno should be happy any productions actually decide to stop by.
To all who responded—I rarely write to critics but every now and then I feel that it’s necessary. We have literally saved over 100 theatres with my shows. It’s not an ego trip at all. And I have given thousands of dollars to theatres in trouble. My offer to help the theatre was totally sincere and not tongue-in-cheek at all. Producers have so often said if I would be willing to do a phone interview with a local feature writer it would greatly help their theatre. I am always willing. I have worked in the theatre since I was 19 years old acting in the Tony-award winning Broadway Production of “Luther” with Albert Finney, and today seeing theatres close right and left is very disheartening. I am very proud that the “Nunsense” shows have saved so many. Nunsense and Two and a Half Men have paid the bills for many other shows that haven’t been as financially successful.
Goggin you’ve lost much respect with your feeble attempt to make right of a well-constructed review. It comes across as a lack of professionalism when one tries to defend against constructive criticism. I have to agree with Mr. Munro’s review and said theater company is not at risk of shutting down. Nor will one of your plays ever be the saving grace of such a reputable company as GCP. I can see where many can derive a sense of ego from your thinking thusly. You should rather, just be thankful another company is running one of your shows. And furthermore you boast WAY too much! Take a chill peel and also maybe even a humility peel.
Brendon
I for one was happy to hear from the author–
He has a successful franchise and it was good to have some backstory on it–
Have seen two of the series–and liked them both,
my husband not so much– just different tastes I guess. But more info is always good info, critical too.
I don’t think Munro or Groggin need defending, their chosen field of the arts has surely thickened their skins over the years and a bit of negative opinion is not going to hold sway over either–
It is just a healthy discourse on differing opinions–
Glad to see it– and always happy to support local theater!
Grendel – this is not a bus and truck company ‘stopping by’, it’s a production from a local company using local actors. We are lucky to have several very good local companies producing right now. Go see some local theater!
What’s a chill peel? Can you slip on it?
I was wondering the same thing, DV.
Personally we could do without Donald Munro every reviewing anything in Fresno ever again
Mr. Goggin, I do appreciate your response to our not very popular Mr. Monroe. Entertainment is a funny thing. The enjoyment or rejection of the piece is in the eye of the beholder. Now I have enjoyed many of your plays and would go on to say that my love for the theatre arts started with one of the Nunsense shows. But not all would be of the same opinion. The Good Company Players in Fresno California has been a pioneer of great talent and great theatre since it’s founding in 1973. Fresno has turned out such talent as; Tony Award Winners, Broadway actors, Silver Screen movie stars and award winning television performers. All of these performers got there start with The Good Company Player’s and The Junior Company. In fact, the cast that is performing Nunsensations at the present time is one of the most seasoned casts you could ever hope to assemble. To insinuate that the success or failure of Nunsensations in Fresno could be due to “what’s going on in Fresno” is out of line. The fact that GCP or its season ticket holders would want to produce one of your shows should be an honor to you.
Nunsense doesn’t tell the real story worth telling. Someone should make a play/movie of this:
https://picasaweb.google.com/111883073319518457118/AllAmericanGirlByFrDanielALordSJ